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A Former Red Guard Shares Lessons From the Cultural Revolution | Interview with Fred Engst Part 2
Read Fred Engst's work here:
www.bannedthought.net/China/MaoEra/GPCR/Recent/OnRelationshipBetweenWorkingClassAndItsParty-Engst-150207.pdf
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Timestamps:
0:00 - Introduction
0:30 - Bourgeois right vs bureaucratic privilege
15:35 - Stalin's style of leadership
20:11 - Two-line struggle vs revisionism
26:29 - Collectivization and industrialization in China
36:08 - Mao's struggle against capitalist roaders
42:03 - How Chinese society saw the inner-party bourgeoisie
50:31 - Gang of Four and Mao's leadership
58:35 - How can the proletariat use art?
1:11:45 - Working class movement in the US
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КОМЕНТАРІ

  • @namesnotreal5705
    @namesnotreal5705 День тому

    This was very useful in my union. Thank you comrades

  • @dzagoproductions3450
    @dzagoproductions3450 День тому

    I know that this video is old, but as someone that is an ancom i have to say that reading MLM and Anarchist texts is like being a child of divorced parents and every time you go to one parents house you just hear them complain about the other parent. That is to say that Anarchists and MLMs have a lot to learn from each other, both in theory and in practice and even though they won't suddenly agree with each other after that, this kind of mutual understanding will make a unified block against capitalism, fascism and the far-right much easier and more efficient.

  • @shockwave2291
    @shockwave2291 2 дні тому

    I wouldn't call Trump's fascist dogwhistling and general apathy towards the far-right a "liberal exaggeration". One can criticize liberal's inability to stop the rise of fascism while at the same time acknowledging that the US state, irrespective of which major party is in power, has always enabled it.

  • @jeffisfine
    @jeffisfine 3 дні тому

    Great to hear from him again. He's such a fountain of knowledge and first hand experience. I like how he firmly indicates what he know from firsthand experience, what he knows mostly from study, and what are just hunches on his part. Great example for others engaging in analysis and criticism.

  • @Pudin-kc2oz
    @Pudin-kc2oz 3 дні тому

    Why did i get an ad for why marxism is a recipie for distater on this video?

  • @piku7800
    @piku7800 4 дні тому

    Lusordos book explains well these western marxist and their never coming revolution.

  • @TheBecone
    @TheBecone 4 дні тому

  • @peaceleader7315
    @peaceleader7315 4 дні тому

    Ahhh... hmmmm.. negative and positive to combine and create a flashpoint for energy ✨️.. hmmmm.. 🤔

  • @eylul4333
    @eylul4333 4 дні тому

    I don't think anyone who has some understanding of fascism and its history wouldn't overlook things happening in USA as liberal exaggeration

  • @BigDaddyDracula
    @BigDaddyDracula 5 днів тому

    as a communist I gotta disagree. this won't spur any kind of revolution and in the meantime a lot of people are being round up to be shipped to what is, let's be real, a concentration camp at Guantanamo Bay where they could endure who knows what horrors. I was one of those "trump, kamala, what's the difference" people, but I was wrong. she would've been cruel to migrants and refugees, but not to this degree.

  • @dylanjulve5374
    @dylanjulve5374 5 днів тому

    “Lets not be Monday morning quarterbacks” is a crazy line love the interview

  • @effscottfitz-gee2024
    @effscottfitz-gee2024 5 днів тому

    Why start a factory if you want to control it?

  • @3rddegreeheartbreak
    @3rddegreeheartbreak 5 днів тому

    All this is true bit as parents who know this should teach the child that just cause others do it dosnt mean you should as well. Teach them to not follow behind others unquestionably and to think freely and openly to change if it is good for you and others reinforcing personal individualsm and thinking about others in a egalitarian way. Cause what might not be good for you might be good for someone else. Just cause its bad or evil dosnt mean we withhold it from our children we must educate them and be the guiding hands

  • @3rddegreeheartbreak
    @3rddegreeheartbreak 5 днів тому

    MLM isnt universally applicable but it is so strategically if necessary

  • @xSaecredChaotixx
    @xSaecredChaotixx 5 днів тому

    I don't know, i wouldn't underestimate the collaborationism in Trumps victory. Maybe more of a Bonapartiste but when in for a shitshow.

  • @parasthesia1
    @parasthesia1 5 днів тому

    "The bourgeoisie, wherever it has got the upper hand, has put an end to all feudal, patriarchal, idyllic relations. It has pitilessly torn asunder the motley feudal ties that bound man to his ―natural superiors, and has left remaining no other nexus between man and man than naked self-interest, than callous ―cash payment‖."

  • @AtropalArbaal-dk8jv
    @AtropalArbaal-dk8jv 6 днів тому

    People like him are why we fought a war between 1939 and 1945. Does he realize Trump's got concentration camps up and running?

  • @amielgarcia3784
    @amielgarcia3784 6 днів тому

    National democratic movement Is what ronald Reagan said It the best interest of the people to have a freesociety and democratic (Liberal way) With people democracy (not a Marxist) As of For Of By The people Means smaller government Limited constitutional republic Free market economy And human rights as property rights and property rights as human rights But if it is revolutionary against tyrant like communist fascist and dictator That would national democratic revolution It different from marx and joma

  • @flogginga_dead_horse4022
    @flogginga_dead_horse4022 6 днів тому

    you said a lot of nothing

  • @theperfectmoderate6995
    @theperfectmoderate6995 6 днів тому

    The american regime IS fascist whoever the party in power is, this is the correct approach

  • @Skunkapeliberationunion1312
    @Skunkapeliberationunion1312 6 днів тому

    What i like about Maoists, is that they're more likely to actually do stuff other than a book club. If you see folks stocking a community refrigerator, starting a community garden, doing a distro event, offering free skillshare workshops, or firearms/first aid training, ect, basically any active mutual aid or community defense org, they're almost guaranteed to be anarchists or Maoists. Every other ML group I've met in person does at most a book club and occasional sign waving. Anarchists and Maoists actually do stuff. (In the US*)

    • @AnarchoPanda-ist9220
      @AnarchoPanda-ist9220 6 днів тому

      Based Opinion ☝️

    • @AtropalArbaal-dk8jv
      @AtropalArbaal-dk8jv 6 днів тому

      Anarchists are also doing that And anarchists are sketchy fucks. Never trust a dude with a man bun.

    • @Skunkapeliberationunion1312
      @Skunkapeliberationunion1312 5 днів тому

      @AnarchoPanda-ist9220 too many folks just Pick a team, and can't see tangible proof of good being done by "the other team", or accept any valid criticism of their own.

    • @shockwave2291
      @shockwave2291 2 дні тому

      This only applies to Western countries in the Global North I think. Plenty of ML groups in the Global South do more than just book clubs (and most importantly, can actually gain and hold power which Anarchists historically are bad at doing).

    • @Skunkapeliberationunion1312
      @Skunkapeliberationunion1312 2 дні тому

      @shockwave2291 I usually write "in the US" in that comment. Kinda surprised I left it out. The venn diagram between MLs Here vs MLs anywhere else only really overlaps on reading material.

  • @vophie
    @vophie 6 днів тому

    58:00 capitalist art and proletarian art

  • @ardenigleheart9467
    @ardenigleheart9467 6 днів тому

    What’s his accent?

    • @UFOsirREAL
      @UFOsirREAL 5 днів тому

      he was born and raised in China, by umm western parents

    • @smhsophie
      @smhsophie 5 днів тому

      american with a very slight chinese tinge. his parents are american but he was born in china around the civil war.

    • @samzeng159
      @samzeng159 День тому

      Shanxi

  • @vophie
    @vophie 6 днів тому

    Thank you!

  • @hex2637
    @hex2637 6 днів тому

    Funnily enough this analysis is essentially the exact same as that of the RCA/RCI, which is Trotskyist.

  • @Maverick.D.
    @Maverick.D. 6 днів тому

    This dude is great 😆😁.

  • @kalb1ss1blak21
    @kalb1ss1blak21 6 днів тому

    imma put this quote here "Despite the howls of the left and the waving of the bloody shirt of anti-fascism in defense of democracy, we know that democracy is fascism and fascism is democracy, the two go hand in hand and are both as American as apple pie. The only way to stop the dictatorship of capital is the dictatorship of the proletariat. What we have here is a perfect demonstration of the fusion of capital, democracy and fascism. Regardless of whether it takes place in its fascist or democratic guise, for the continued accumulation of capital the bourgeois will sacrifice all supposedly high ideals and noble principles by unleashing cruelty, carnage, destruction and misery on all forms of life on the planet to ensure a constant return on their sacred investments. Democracy, in fact, covers the absolute and totalitarian rule of the bourgeois class dictatorship and to justify imperialist military adventures. So fundamentally nothing changes with the return of Trump, but only the continuation of a trajectory traced long before him." - il partito communista internazionale

  • @Mushroommarx
    @Mushroommarx 6 днів тому

    But what many of us Marxists saw was how MAGA Nazism was going to evolutionarily end up at Nazism. Nazis started in 1922 and didn’t become the EVIL Nazis until 1936. They evolved. Hell, they hosted the world Olympics. That’s all I’m saying. We saw the writing on the wall that MAGA was eventually going to end up Nazi and here we are

  • @buttsauceable
    @buttsauceable 6 днів тому

    you can tell the democrat arent serious about their fascism accusations because theyre still doing the "reaching across the aisle" shit. america IS fascist but it has been for a long time.

  • @Rfp601
    @Rfp601 6 днів тому

    Thank you! The liberal echo chamber has been driving me crazy

  • @ttvrevolversmoke9214
    @ttvrevolversmoke9214 6 днів тому

    Imperialism is the end stage of capitlism but I would add fascism to that as well

  • @BradleytheDavis
    @BradleytheDavis 6 днів тому

    I don't think they were wrong AT ALL to call trump a fascist and maga a fascist movement. It basically fits all the criteria for one, as per Ur-fascism. and now that he's in office, all the executive orders he's been doing are very strongly supporting this. Not to mention Elon Musk, a neonazi, has such close proximity to Trump now. anyone who might've been saying the madison garden rally was a deliberate reeference to the nazi rally in 1939 is being silly though. But personally i never saw anyone say that. Most i saw was people drawing the comparison, which is honestly not a unfair comparison. The democrats' message, or rather lack thereof, and so frustrating. cuz how hard could it be to have a counter-narrative to fascism? i mean seriously bro it shouldn't be THAT hard

  • @satyasyasatyasya5746
    @satyasyasatyasya5746 6 днів тому

    disagree. fasc echoes fasc. it wasn't "Not at all a reference" it was lowkey a friggin reference AND a show of power/popularity. like its both

    • @ttvrevolversmoke9214
      @ttvrevolversmoke9214 6 днів тому

      I agree with you

    • @caramelldansen2204
      @caramelldansen2204 6 днів тому

      Can you actually provide proof that Trμmp is majority face-ist ideologically, or is this just "bad man must do bad thing because he's bad"?

    • @charalampostsakirides-pala2761
      @charalampostsakirides-pala2761 6 днів тому

      Yup. Biggest mistake in this analysis. One doesn't need to exagerate the threat of fascism for the rest to be true. Wishful thinking at best.

    • @marting5308
      @marting5308 6 днів тому

      @@ttvrevolversmoke9214 Did you just agree with yourself?

    • @Halofreakanoid
      @Halofreakanoid 6 днів тому

      @@marting5308No? That’s a different account

  • @miltiadiskoutsokeras9189
    @miltiadiskoutsokeras9189 7 днів тому

    You are downplaying a real situation due to the overreaction of liberals to the wrong stuff. Trump has full control of Big Tech, the Supreme Court, the Congress and of course the far right wing. If you need a rally or Musk's Nazi salute to realize that democracy is at stake in the US, you are late to the party. By the way Democrats did not govern the state with any more democratic values. The US is an oligarchy centuries now.

    • @miltiadiskoutsokeras9189
      @miltiadiskoutsokeras9189 7 днів тому

      The political situation is dire in the US and there is one single reason for this: people of the working class are organizing against the profound wealth difference.

  • @SpartanJoe193
    @SpartanJoe193 7 днів тому

    The Media is a meme.

    • @caramelldansen2204
      @caramelldansen2204 6 днів тому

      I'd argue they make the world confusing on purpose.

    • @projectpitchfork860
      @projectpitchfork860 6 днів тому

      Memes are funny. Bourgeois media isn't.

    • @buttsauceable
      @buttsauceable 6 днів тому

      ​​@@caramelldansen2204 they dont make the world confusing on purpose, they oversimplify it. the mainstream media gives us its pre-chewed ideology.

    • @SpartanJoe193
      @SpartanJoe193 6 днів тому

      @@projectpitchfork860 It is though when you think about it.

  • @EdoardoB-xz1jp
    @EdoardoB-xz1jp 7 днів тому

    But it is also true that fascist elements may develop at any time forming the most reactionary wing of the bourgeoisie

  • @RyanWattersRyanWatters
    @RyanWattersRyanWatters 7 днів тому

    Most definitely not a liberal or DSA, but to quote Rockhill: the U.S. did not defeat fascism in WWII, it discreetly internationalized it. So in his most coherent forms, Trump is an incompetent fascist, with an overt Christian fascist underling eager to tag-in. The libs aren’t entirely off base in this regard, but something something broken clock. I’m all for unrelenting optimism, but it’s hard to think of this being a “great time.”

    • @rhumal
      @rhumal 7 днів тому

      i think the Dominionist movement is being underestimated by some left observers/commenters

  • @Matzu-Music
    @Matzu-Music 7 днів тому

    this is true

  • @violetagardenia
    @violetagardenia 7 днів тому

    This is a very profound insight. When he talks on contradiction between party leadership vs people’s supervision the way to overcome that I think lies in direct democracy: referendum and sortition

  • @SWOLF1980
    @SWOLF1980 7 днів тому

    TOTAL NO COMMUNISM RUSSIA⛔

  • @slipknotboy555
    @slipknotboy555 7 днів тому

    ~19:28 Really glad he said that; it's nice for someone to say "that's my guess" when they're not as familiar with something. When I saw what the chapter was called, and where it was going, I was like "Oh, great - here we go." And I was basically right, but that acknowledgement made me less annoyed, heh. I don't think that overall assessment of Stalin is very accurate at all. Hell, some of that stuff discussed was more like Khrushchev and his clique, and beyond. Not Stalin.

  • @STRAT62
    @STRAT62 7 днів тому

    What about the murder and torture of anyone who disagreed with him? He went out of his way to imprison, torture, and murder homosexuals. He was not a hero at all.

  • @41intelectual
    @41intelectual 8 днів тому

    Amazing guest. Thanks so much for hosting!

  • @41intelectual
    @41intelectual 8 днів тому

    Great interview. Thanks for hosting Mr. Engst!

  • @eliplayz22
    @eliplayz22 8 днів тому

    I’ve read Fred’s work and he’s a good writer

  • @magepunk2376
    @magepunk2376 8 днів тому

    As an anarchist, I consider Marxists my allies. I think we have the same end goals, we just propose different means to get there.

  • @ComradeKemi
    @ComradeKemi 8 днів тому

    This was such good interview!

  • @nikan8946
    @nikan8946 9 днів тому

    Thank you for this! I've been catching up on Fred's videos ever since I saw part 1 of this interview a couple months ago. I wish someone could link up Fred and Hasan Piker, it would be interesting to get Fred on Hasan's stream.

  • @yushka1917
    @yushka1917 9 днів тому

    Very important topics!

  • @zainmudassir2964
    @zainmudassir2964 9 днів тому

    Hope you make video on Trump invasion threats on Panama with Marxist lens